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So... I need advice on Copic markers! I want to maybe do a few sketch colours at the upcoming conventions this year, and for that I need real physical colouring devices... commonly known as pens (never heard of 'pens' before!!) :P

Anyone out there got any real advice on what version to get? What pack is a decent starter set? How do they perform? What are the pitfalls and traps to avoid, and how best to go about using them? Anything would be appreciated. I don't wanna spend a ton of money on them, but I imagine it might be worth me investing in something for the future. If there are other markers that are cbheaper but perform just as well, then great... let me know! :D

Oh, and just got out of the cinema after seeing 'Chronicle', which, as many haters as there may be, was great! Really enjoyed it... nothing groundbreaking, but this is the super-powered genre, its hard to be groundbreaking and make money at the same time with such fickle audiences, you have to play it safe to a degree. I'll be buying the dvd when it drops easily :D

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therealARTURO Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional
Don't get a set my friend. Half the colors you won't use. Go with the duller tones first, otherwise they turn out WAY to saturated and bright. Greys are a good place to start, Warm or Cool before Neutral. Purples are Awesome for shading. If you want I will send you a color chart of my Copics and which ones I use most.

I hope this helps my friend. Good Luck.:)
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Thanks Arley, i'm thinking of going with the warm greys first actually after hearing off everyone, colours will be the next step up I think. Now I just need to learn how to use them ;)
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therealARTURO Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional
Cool. You are going to love them. :)
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krissthebliss Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012   Digital Artist
I have "Copic" like marker its quite nifty... think of it as a brush Multiply with 75-50 Fill.hehehehe
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Haha, nice translation from PS to real life ;)
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BDixonarts Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I would think if you really want to know more about those markers I would go ask :iconmarkerguru: he uses them a lot.

you can also find some of the markers here [link]

you can also find all the types of Copic brand markers here too ;)
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Cool, thanks, I found the best offer on the interwebs already, with awesome shipping :D

[link]
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BDixonarts Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
looks cool i will keep this link bookmarked ;)
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rcardoso530 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
do you know mike mayhew?
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Yeah, he's my best mate, we even share our dinners with each other!

No... haha! Not personally anyway :P
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rcardoso530 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
haha, what-EVER!!! lol anyways i would say if you want info on markers ask him, he has always been helpful with me and also maybe cinar too
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Haha, will do man... I think i'm set now anyway, spent all night looking into it ;)
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rcardoso530 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
haha... it all good. hope all works out for you brother
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DRMoore Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012   Traditional Artist
If the price point on the Copics is an issue, you could consider MEPXY (pronounced Mep-zi, kinda like Pepsi) markers. These are a set from Korea, and appear identical to the Copics (from what I can "see," same color ranges, slightly longer barrel, which could mean more ink and longer lasting). Good thing about either, they are refillable. I'm waiting on a set of warm grays from them, so I will be able to better assess the difference (I have a few Copic Sketch markers to compare). I've been hearing good things about them, from what I could find.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Thanks man, i'll take a look at them and see whats up? :D
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IanDWalker Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
For a Copic Convention survival kit, you need only these few markers...

BLack Line art set (Find on DickBlick)
All primary colors
And buy the refills for each and every color.

You do that, your markers will go a long way and beyond!
Secret hint... if you buy the primary color Copic Refills, and you own Prismacolor markers, the primary color refills for Copic will also work well with Prisma refills too since they are both Alcohol based markers!
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
So, I could get away with just the primary set for my first con? I don't do lineart at all, i'll be colouring sketches that are done already, and I wont need a refill for a 2 day con will I?! (I wont be that popular... not with a face like mine!)
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IanDWalker Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Dude, don't underestimate your worth, and your potential at a Con. I learned that the first day when I sold an 11 x 17 piece for $135 in the first 10 min of the Con. And I was selling pieces like that for $20 before... So yeah, for the con, that is all you will need. I also suggest getting 3 Cool Greys, and 3 Warm Greys too. But you will be good. I overstocked big time for my first con.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Thanks, I am heeding the advice :D
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mechangel2002 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
You mean MARKERS? Not pens ;)

Make sure you get the Copic SKETCH markers, not the original or the caio - they come with different tips but also the sketch ones are the only ones that come in EVERY colour they have (and the first to get new shades).

I'd start out with a set of the greytones. There's 4 different variations: warm, cool, tonal and neutral. That helps if you don't have much money to spend. Then expand into skintones. Then from there make sure you get a variation of light and dark colours filling the rest of the rainbow. You don't have to have EVERY colour - just the basics (ie. I go for every second colour in their chart, slowly adding to my collection).

Or if you have a chunk of money to spend on them, get the 72A set (72 colours, A is the best set for what we do) and then go from there, supplimenting with colours and shades you think you'll need.

But yeah I can't stress enough about having skintones lol.... I actually ran out at one point in the middle of my Vampirella work!
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
I said Markers at the top! Wikipedia has Marker's classed as pens anyway, Felt Tip Pens...nah nah ne nah nah :P :P :P :P (that was four whole tongues poking at you!)

Thanks btw, I might go for the greys first then, maybe, still a hell of a lot of dosh! Can I get away with old skool kiddies felt tips, I am so awesome that I think I could do it you know :D
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mechangel2002 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Doh! XDDDD

Look online for sales. There's even a site that will let you buy a custom order of 72, like how Copic sells their markers in the sets.

I also started out with watercolour pencils, they're really smooth and they were the only thing I could afford at one time lol. I only got my 72 set in 2005 because it was on sale for $230 USD, the exchange rate was awesome ($200 CAD), had free shipping, and I charged it to my student line of credit lol!
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doughnut42 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Chris Stevens could probably give you some good advice on markers if you want to go ask him. Also try Brent Peeples who used copics to do this Firebreather for me last weekend at a convention - [link]
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Oooh, nice! Thanks Travis, i'll give em a shout... Chris is the master of the gray markers, so he's definitely gonna get an earful from me ;)
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Nasdreks Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
Copics are nice because they are refillable, so they are actually cheaper in the long run. One marker (at 7 a pop) and one refill (7-9 a pop) last about as long as 20-25 prismacolors. I know because I used to go through the grays like kleenex. Go with Sketch over Ciao because they have more colors and are easier to hold (IMO). They work on most papers, but if you are using bristol board rather than specialty marker paper, make absolutely sure you have some kind of blotter paper underneath! Otherwise 2 things will happen: one, you will ruin your coloring surface when the ink bleeds through (and it won't wash off with water) and secondly, if you keep coloring over a messed up surface, especially if you are working with lots of color and really, really wet, you can reactivate the colors from the stains underneath and get stains and blots.

Also, once you go over markers on graphite, it's permanent. So you won't be able to erase anything.

And don't be afraid of blending colors. I use lots of grays, blues and reds when I mix my skintones. Make sure your markers are always wet, if they start getting streaky, but refill bottles.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Cool, thanks for that :) I'm leaning on em right now on Ebay, just got to take the plunge and invest...but its scary! I only spend money on Action Figures and Comics!!!
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Nasdreks Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
I know you live in the UK, but if they have Michaels or Hobby Lobby craft stores there, these stores often have sales and coupons. I usually end up spending far less on markers than retail.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Don't know either of those stores, but I do live in the UK's premiere 'creative arts' city (supposedly), so i'll check the stores tomorrow and see if I can nab a deal :D
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Eddy-Swan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
but they also cost a kings ransom ;)
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
... I've noticed!
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Eddy-Swan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
the copic sketch markers are good, they have the soft paintbrush tip, not a fan of the standard markers.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
I'm looking at those ones right now, just what sets are the best to go with for the widest range of possible characters whilst also keeping the bank happy and not investing in too many :D
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shaotemp Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Also look into the paper. I used just regular paper or Illustration board but once I got the Copic marker paper it was SWEET. It erases well too.

I have a basic starter set and a flesh tone set which comes with a sweet black liner:
All done with a basic set and Copic marker paper and I just started in December.
[link]
[link]
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
I'll just be colouring pre-done sketches so I don't think i'll have much of a choice with regards to the paper, but I think the idea of a basic colour set and a flesh tone set are where its at for the starter in me :D Nice job too with those sketches mate :D
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shaotemp Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hope it helps!
Thanks man.
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JamieFayX Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
copics are better than prsimacolor. but i think working with the prismacolor first was good for me. look on ebay. you'll find them there for like half off. i got a 72 set for like $200 when it should have been over $400 or $500

not sure if you were asking for pens or if thats what markers are called over there, but if so, a good pen is microns. they come in multiple sizes. some are fine point, others brushes.
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Painty paint markers, not fineliner micron thingy's yeah! How so are Copics better than Prismacolor. I want to make a decision tonight if possible to get some practice in... I dont wanna show up and shit on sketches haha :D
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JamieFayX Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
they blend better and leave a less streaky look to them
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Cool!
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JamieFayX Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional General Artist
;)
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LarsonJamesART Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
copics are the best but they cost a bit. for set i would recommend the warm grays or the cool grays, and for more colors [link]
like i said they arent cheap, if you want cheap go with prismacolor.
for inking DONT USE SHARPIES OR REGULAR PENS!!!!! the copics will smear the ink. use the copic multiliners or the fiber castel PITT pens.
to avoid screeching go over an area at least twice while its still wet.
working light to dark gives you the results (in my opinion) because it allows you to build up the color.
DONT EVEN BOTHER GETTING THE COLORLESS BLENDER, its not what it says it is. it will lift the color, its more of an eraser then anything but it wont get rid of the color totally.
does that about cover it? need anything else just let me know
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Cool, thanks! I'll just be doing colouring with them, so no need for inking pens or anything like that! I'm gonna watch some tutorials tonight and go through as many reviews as possible to get a handle on it all... new things are exciting :D I was looking to spend about $90-100 for a set with a range that will cover most superhero base colours!
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LarsonJamesART Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
[link] she does some videos, but the only thing i dont like is she works dark to light which will give you this weird texture
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Thanks man, i'll check that out. I paint mid>dark>light, but digi colour dark>light... maybe this will finally balance out my repertoire eh! ;)
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LarsonJamesART Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
loll. best of luck, ccopics are a pain to get the hang of but once you got it down theyre a blast! cant wait to see some!
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
I shall see what comes of my search for a deal... or if I find a treasure map somewhere first, and the treaure is easily locatable (as in, in the same town!) :P
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LarsonJamesART Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
lol sounds like a plan
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